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>>7604 The butcher could have said anything and Banzan would have gotten enlightened, it's not about the contents of the message, but about the transcending reality.

Aren't they not supposed to be eating red meat in Japan at that time?

>>7607 You're right that meat was banned or heavily restricted during the Edo period, but the strictest ban was done under the fifth Tokugawa shogun, so towards the end of Banzan's life.

Ah, so deska.

>>7607 >>7609 >>7610 I've spent literally over 4 years watching NHK World and Japanology + with Peter Barakan and I had no clue in the world that this was the case. You could say that I'm bad at memorizing stuff, or that it was mentioned in some way and I am stupid, but instead, I'm blaming Japan and the Japanese media for this. NHK specifically. I hate you, NHK World, and I will not forgive you for making me seem stupid around my assburger KC tier friends.

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>I don't understand it. What lead him to enlightenment? Purpose of koan is not getting of correct answer. Its the process.

>>7619 But saying that everything is the same, equally "best", coming from the mouth of someone who just wants to sell to you, or is even being lazy, diminishing your request to have the best piece, I enlightening? What if there is a deeper layer, and banzan was enlightened by the butcher audacity in replying this?

Those words perfected his equanimity

>>7604 Maybe he was like "Oh fuck thats self esteem." Only yesterday I got enlightened at the bakery because they told me their chicken curry sandwhich is the best. I may now lead you. Suck my dick & pay me my marionette army.

>>7607 >>7609 >In Satsuma during the Edo period, pork was very popular and was called aruku yasai (Japanese: 歩く野菜), which can be translated as walking vegetables.[13] Laughed at this

>>7604 >>7625 You're clearly too materialistic to comprehend it. It's irrelevant if the butcher lied or not. It's not about the butcher and his meat at all.

Berns little brother was into Zen Buddhism for a very long time. He even went to week-long meditation retreats and to Japan. The truth is that the koans are just a shit test. There is no other point in them than to brainwash people and cement the hierarchy. The only valid answer is the one the "master" expects, and he only expects it because over the years he picked it up from other masters, who picked it up from other masters. Actually it's like a perversion of insult swordfighting.

>>7654 The truth is that they're going to troll you to no end if they see that instead of genuinely seeking spiritual enlightenment you're into feelgood vibe crap. They're specifically instructed to troll clueless foreigners.