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What do you think he meant by it?

I think there's a really different level of cognition between a bird and a human, general intelligence, and I have the intuition there's really the highest level of cognition an entity can achieve, models that model what the model is modeling (thinking) and can go on on nesting modeling indefinitely, the only limits are on memory, processing power (or time) and to an extent information gathering. If a superintelligence is developed or develops I don't think it will be "super" in the sense of a novel way to understand the universe, just better modeling. But going back to the bird example, the bird doesn't know as well as a human what a monitor is, but the knowledge it gathers is enough, from experience to know it's harmless so why it should be alarmed? The difference with a human, the general intelligence part, is that the bird, as far as we know, doesn't model the intentions or inner workings of the monitor and it doesn't seem to model itself interacting with it in complex ways

>>5612 That's the essence of the Lovecraftian horror, too. I always liked to imagine it as metaphorical rainworm-humanity crawling on the tip of a 20 Megaton nuclear ICBM.

Why do people pay so much attention to this diagnosed schizo. Sure, making an OS on your own is quite an achievment, but there are other accomolished engineers to look up to that didnt suffer from a debilitating illness

>>5612 > When my bird was looking at my computer monitor There's a whole Allegory of the Cave hidden here. Also I had no idea he was still cross-developing TempleOS from Ubuntu. I really expected it was self-hosting by now.

>>5648 Because he actually had many poignant comments despite his schizophrenia.

>>6011 Is also a lot of "he said the n-word, teehee"

>>6014 When you think about it, complacent nigger cattle was his word for Bydło.

>>5617 The word intelligence itself is a loaded word that originally was meant for humans, then expanded to include other things like machines (Alan Turing predicted this would happen, and said the word would become meaningless once it did). Just like before the invention airplanes, the word "fly" was meant for animals. Then expanded to machines. But "intelligence" is not so easy as it encapsulates the whole of the human capacities. Expanding its definition to other entities, like animals and machines, reduces the word radically. Humans are biological creatures with limitations in their cognitive abilities, just like animals have their own limitations. As Chomsky would say, "we're not angels", ie. we're not magical creatures without scope and who have infinite capacity. No such thing could exist: a thing must have scope and limitations to even exist as a separate thing from something else. We don't know what the "ultimate scope" of intelligence could be. That idea is reserved for theology and ideas of "God." As I see it, the bird and human are not so different. Humans also blissfully live their lives unaware of huge amounts of things going on in the universe. Things which he is simply not capable of processing, just like the bird.

>>6171 This is true. Machine brains are built differently and work differently. Since they operate at their core on numbers (1s and 0s), they can handle mathematical calculations with ease. A calculator is a very simple machine but more capable than all but the best humans at math. Human brains are better at other aspects like image recognition, balance, etc. The revolution we are seeing in AI is that datasets are getting larger, data storage is getting cheaper, and developers are getting better at interconnecting AI programs with data. AI today has the ability to not only remember, but fall back on everything it was taught when it was trained and it's databases were filled with information.

>>6177 A human cannot comprehend the numbers a machine can dream up, and neither can balance themselves through the air like a bird. Likewise, the bird will not know what the computer is, and neither does the computer.

>>6177 Nobody actually knows enough about how the brain operates, or how the latest machine so-called intelligence operate for that matter, to know for sure that they aren't doing the same thing to some degree. Maybe you're not conscious of it, but your brain is in fact doing thousands of very precise mathematical calculations every minute just so you're able to do basic things like walking, throwing a ball, or balancing on your own feet as you say, etc. The problem with your brain it that it's mathematical language is different from the one we have consciously created to reify the same abstract ideas. That said, of course the machine brains we are building are far too rudimentary. And whatever true intelligence we create from them might even be too alien for us to ever recognize it, since it is being built from that same math and logic we created, rather than the one that created us.

>>6219 We know that the brain is made up of billions nerves called neurons that communicate through electrochemical signals. A brain "thinks" differently from a computer in that the billions of nerves are very broad, so it can handle complex tasks like balance and face recognition simply better than a computer. A brain is simply better at performing an unknown task that a computer because the broad web of neurons can adapt better. A computer's though process is simple, 1s and 0s, translated into various computer languages and outputted into a screen. It can handle logic far better than a human brain can because it can be designed for that function. As such, calculations and logical games like chess are far easier for a computer.

Unlike birds, humans can discover things about reality that go beyond our immediate perception and intuition Thangs like relativity

Terry was amazingly articulate for a schizo btw

why americans are obsessed with celebs?

>>6235 Sometimes.