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au Bernd 2025-11-15 12:35:30 No. 22733

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In researching my family history, I have found that most of my ancestors are not very interesting, but I found some ancestors who are Irish and Anglo Irish nobility and even a petty king. But this is a minority and only starts getting into nobility around 1680. So in practical terms it means nothing(they also don't share my surname, I can't find the origin for my surname or my mother's maiden name). It's made me think. What is ancestry really? These Nobles were my ancestors but only make up a very small portion of my genetic make up, I have not had any traditions passed on from them, I do not even have their name. And this is the case for most ancestors that most people will have. Once you go back past your grand parents it starts to not really mean anything.
IMO the only ancestry that matters is living ancestry. Now what's living ancestry changes depending on the circumstances. Nobles traced back their ancestries for centuries because it was tied with the state, or some kind of religious ancestry. Their ancestry went back centuries because the state also went back centuries, or this is what they wanted to imply. For landed elites ancestry usually went back as long as they lived in that land, or at least in that town, owning different pieces of land in that area. You don't have to abstract away an ancestry 7 generations back when you were born and grew up in the same land, maybe the same house, as those 7 generations back. Now, one of the main traces of modernity is that we inherit little to nothing from our forebears. When it comes to ancestry, we are so atomized that we divide ourselves in generations, already from father to son. People find more kinship with people of their own generation than their own parents. Basically ancestry is dead at birth in modern families. There's only dead ancestry, and this is why when modern people want to talk about ancestry, it's always something abstract and already dead. Ancestry can be anything whatsoever. >you can be anything you want What your parents are really saying is that you won't inherit a trade, business or a profession from them. This is one of the best marks of generational break in modernity.
IIRC one consistent feature of European history is that: >The affluent classes reproduced disproportionately relative to non-affluent ones >There was a continuous stream of downward mobility over the centuries between them This means that practically every westerner has some nobles and big names in their ancestry if they go back far enough.
>>22746 True. My ancestors were early settlers so we have been here a while. But it's still not where I came from or my natural environment as I have no native blood at all(thankfully). >>22756 That's probably the case for all societies. Though Europe had a less strict class system. But also Europe has good records so you can actually go back a long way. Not Sure how far back one could go on Japan or China. Let alone the third world.
Ancestry is mainly middle to elderly people trying to find meaning in their lives. It is interesting, but also doesn't actually matter that much. Whether you go up or down the family tree, it doesn't take many generations at all until you barely share any genes with them at all.
I hope someone will knock my sister up soon or our line will end.
>>22814 is this cuckoldry
>>22816 do you consider your sister to be your wife?
>>22816 *kingdom come cuckoldry
>>22822 no but feels in the same genre
>>22822 Pole took Sarmatyzm too seriously and converted to old Zoroastrianism.
>>22824 so you think a man should try to prevent his sister from being fucked? that's tarded
>>22832 She just needs to marry and have kids or nobody in our family will.
>>22833 ües, i get that but poland has different ideas
>>22814 Do it yourself.
How can someone research family history?
>>22868 I'm using Ancestry.com, but it's heavily Anglo oreinted. Though they do often go into other areas but they don't have as many records on them. AI is also helpful funnily enough.