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de Helmets Bernd 2025-10-10 12:23:03 No. 15061
What is Bernd's favourite (european medieval) helmet? And why? My preferences changed a lot over the years, and it has a lot to do with seeing things over and over again until I was bored by them. At the moment, I'd say: - Maximilian close helmet for peak german renaissance look, elegant and natural - Houndskull bascinet for the classic "armored knight" look, also I love how all design aspects were centered around being a heavy cavalryman, which is imho what knights should be, although this was already becoming a thing of the past at the point these helmets were around - Sallet because sallet, obviously, although I find gothic style armor a little too polished, elegant, a little too easy to enjoy nowadays, and prefer the more outlandish, bizarre looks of other medieval periods. - Kiribati porcupine fish helmet because they look like right out of a cliche fantasy setting, but they are real nonetheless and look cool as hell.
>>15061 >Kiribati porcupine fish helmet because they look like right out of a cliche fantasy setting, but they are real nonetheless and look cool as hell. It was Telvanni tire and it was on the KC. Other than that, I'd surely go with some footman helmet for myself, with a the neck guard sold separately for better mobility instead of being attached like for cavalry/jousting. Sallet looks really nice and still high-speed intimidating, which a helmet should definitely convey imo.
>>15062 >with a the neck guard sold separately for better mobility instead of being attached like for cavalry/jousting. Like with a visor/bevor combo? The mobility doesnt really change with those, but it's very nice to have a two-stage option for opening up your face. Also looks indeed cool as hell.

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The Lyle bascinet, made around 1390 in Milan and now exhibited in the Royal Armouries in Leeds. Many modern "houndskull" type replicas are based on it. I like the style of armour of the second half of the 14th century in general because it still combined metal with textile/heraldic elements and shields were also still worn at times. As much as you have to admire the full Gothic and Italian harnesses of the 15th century, purely aesthetically they're missing the heraldic elements of the 14th Century knight for me. The type of helmet is also associated with several wars that took place here, such as the Gugler War (literally named after the "Hundsgugel") and the Battle of Sempach.
I like armets too, other than that another favourite of mine would be the great helm. I don't like hornskull bascinets, Sallets can be good if the tail is not too long.
>>15066 Right? Looks like those borderline modern knights in fantasy scenarios like that steampunk RPG I can't remember the name of or the judges in FFXII. To be hones I draw my whole knowledge about helmets from a video I watched some weeks ago about heavy bascinets and that was how he explained them to differentiate from other helmets and use cases. Fixed neck guards are rather meant for horseback fighting while the loose ones are much lighter and grant neck movement, which can become a liability on horse.
>>15067 You are a man of taste. The bascinet indeed looks the most bascinet-ish it can get. Also, I love things like brass trims, tabards and such. It gives a way more knightly, medieval aura than the cold, austere steel of later periods. Mentioning the battles, I think from switzerland there is one of the very, very few examples of a depiction of different types of armor on a battlefield. I think its from the burgundian wars, and the burgundians are depicted in their heraldic coats, with houndskulls and all of that, while the swiss already wear gothic style armor. A pretty clear message of "our modern military beat the old-fashioned military of burgund". >>15071 >Fixed neck guards are rather meant for horseback fighting while the loose ones are much lighter and grant neck movement, which can become a liability on horse. Yes. As a rule of thumb, the most dangerous think on horseback is an enemy lance or pike, and you dont really have the flexibility to dodge anything, so you more or less expect a very hard thrust to your head or chest at some point, and all of the stuff like the cone-shaped visor, the massive neck guard and so on are all designed to protect you in that exact szenario.

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>>15073 >Yes. As a rule of thumb, the most dangerous think on horseback is an enemy lance or pike, and you dont really have the flexibility to dodge anything, so you more or less expect a very hard thrust to your head or chest at some point, and all of the stuff like the cone-shaped visor, the massive neck guard and so on are all designed to protect you in that exact szenario. The excellent Toby Capwell describes it in one of his books (Armour of the English Knight 1400-1450)
>>15075 I'd love to get more of his books, but they are so expensive. I happened to see a lecture from him at the Harnischfechten Symposium in Lauchröden, about the evolution of british armor into specialized foot combat armor, especially during the wars of the roses.
>>15071 >steampunk RPG I can't remember the name of Arcanum?
>>15090 Yes! I want more actually armed knights and I want them to wear exactly those helmets for a protected, but wide ranged view. The one in the intro isn't as pronounced as I thought to remember, no idea if it follows some rl template. Maybe that's a thing for the next dark age, who knows what future future historians will unearth.
I've never really been a fan of helmets. They look dumb most of the time.
>>15108 https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/HelmetsAreHardlyHeroic
>>15108 A lot of the strange beauty in these things comes from their strict functionality. The function defines the form, aesthetic choices are only really possible in details, and still every weird, ugly helmet has a unique style and aesthetic to them. I like the "weird" aesthetics of some medieval periods. Everyone can find a slim, elegant, shiny suit of gothic armor beautiful, but it takes true passion to see the beauty in stuff like the drawn soldier.
I like the humble bucket. Even a simple nasal helmet with the mail coif attached looks cool imo. I like normal stuff. Crusader stuff. I also like stereotypical conquistador stuff.
>>15110 Is it meant to be a Kastenbrust?
>>15121 Damn, imagine the swag. The medival equivalent of pulling up with a lambo.
>>15121 Metal Zoidberg with a red wig.
>>15121 It looks a lot like the gothic armors depicted in some other treatises. I think its an artistic choice for some reason, you only see this in manuscripts from a certain time, there is no surviving breastplate with that kinda saggy boobs look. But yeah, Kastenbrust is a great style. Dierk Hagedorn got a beautiful one, based on the gladiatoria fechtbuch.
>>15135 Sir Zoidberg von Metall
Any fans of the London Lobsters lobster tail helmets?
>>15113 Praise the sun!

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>>15152 Or are you all fans of the Cavalier helmets?

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>>15152 They were not especially british, german and eastern european cavalry also used them. They look very cool indeed. The pic on the left is a bad reproduction, tho. >>15155 Those are based as hell.