/int/ - International

Isn't there some sort of tinder but for ugly virgins trying to lose their virginity?

>>6462 No, but it gets easier once you've crossed that first mental hurdle.

>>6469 Yeah, ok, but I mean there must be a "buming uglies" kinda app or something. Like next to tinder.

>>6471 Ugly women don't struggle that hard with hookups as Bernds/Incels/whatever, just with commitment. At best you'll get Bernds humping each other.

>>6471 I mean, that's Tinder or any other app. Just lower your standards to rock bottom. The problem is that even the ugliest women get attention for some reason, leaving nothing for ugly men (except hookers). Any app catering to uglies specifically would be invaded by normies anyway.

>>6472 Unlike ugly men, most ugly women don't just want to just fuck anyone. Ugly women also struggle with finding someone to fuck, but for different reasons.

>>6478 Let's not pretend ugly men would just fuck anyone.

>>6478 The only thing I can think of, is the alienation they receive from other (not-so ugly) women. Most dudes would fuck anything if it's somewhat clean of diseases and not directly vomit inducing.

>>6481 >Most dudes would fuck anything if it's somewhat clean of diseases and not directly vomit inducing.

>>6482 Including other men?

>>6361 What is shameful about fugging whores? Vöörginity is more shameful even in Keins' opinion

>>6454 The left that banned prostitution in Sweden etc. or left in germany and other countries that wants the exact opposite? Don't bring shitty American identity politics to Europe. This is not a left-vs-right topic. And if your brain is already too rotten, kindly go to >>>/rvss/.

>>6421 >I don't think most women do it completely voluntarily either If they didn't, they would goto the police and escape

>>6481 Essentially all men would fuck anyone with a bussy We all know this to be the case

>>6513 Fugg, guess I'll get a tranny escort next to check the difference.

>>6512 Oh my sweet summer child

>>6512 Who won the battle? The ones with guns or bows?

How old are you, OP? >Have you ever been with a prozzie, Bernds? Yes, just, once, out of curiosity while in another country to see how it is. I went to one that to the locals would be considered absolutely luxury and for me due to the exchange back then (corona crashed that country currency), was nothing. She was less attractive than in the photos and I was a bit disappointed. She wasn't someone I would for example approach in a party. I was very nervous in the beginning and she did oral on me after a small chat. She wanted to bullshit me in some kind of soft sex where I barely penetrate, but then I forced myself on her as if she was doll. It was also hard for me to cum with condom and I wonder if I was somewhat aggressive. Then I came on her face and bed sheets, the one hour alarm she put on her phone ringed, she was angry at me for coming her face and basically kicked me out of the apartment. I don't know how it is to go to prostitutes in places like Netherlands or Germany though. It must be way better to do that seeing the person instead of going by photos on the internet and dealing with scams.

>>6422 >it changed a lot my perspective on women Why and how? Also thanks for sharing this, interesting.

>>6460 >first was a woman in her early 40s covered in tattoos, second was a Maori woman in her 50s and 3rd was an Asian woman in her 50s Grim. How was the sex itself?

>>6585 Well it's a very poor country that everyone wants to leave, there it's not only the girls in bars you can pick up, basically you can go up to any girl on the street and ask it they want to go for a ride (we rented a car), or eat or drink or whatever, and most will at least get in the car and discuss a tariff, all will know what getting a ride with two male tourists and a driver entails. Some said they were busy but asked if we could meet up later, worst case scenario was what a girl (a real 10/10) told my friend, she didn't need the money, her father was a government official, but no one was offended by the proposition, not even that girl So having such a high incentive to talk to the most attractive girls I could see, I'd go up to them not like how approached them before (like some unreachable princess or something) but like a piece of meat you'd like to eat (which I'm not saying is how you should see girls). Then you spend the day talking and having a good time with the most gorgeous girl you saw that day, knowing that you're paying she won't leave even if you drop all the spaghetti relaxes you and paradoxically the spaghetti usually stays in your pocket, then going to "dance" (Bernd doesn't really dance), or dinner and then fuggin her. Something changes in your brain, even if your brain know you're paying and you'd never pull something like that back home, some part of your brain acts like it doesn't know and tells you you've pulled 9/10s before and it's so much easier to talk to girls back home, they just never seemed threatening again and rejection was never again a big deal

>>6587 Forgot to mention that one of the easiest ways to leave is with a foreigner sponsor, Cubans will proudly tell you they can now leave the country without being thrown to jail, but they will lose their jobs, house, whatever commie bullshit they get, if they leave, so they need a job offer from outsider, or better, a marriage proposal Polite sage

>>6584 > I forced myself on her I wonder why 90% of prostitutes say they want to leave prostitution.

>>6587 Damn I couldnt read this post to the end because of low attention span.

>>6589 I was paying money (something I never did in my life), so I wanted to have real sex instead of pretend sex.

>>6647 And if the portion in a restaurant is smaller than what you expected, do you kick the door to the kitchen in and stuff your mouth with the food that's lying there?

>>6453 But it's something intimate that should only be shared between lovers. Similar to a surrogate mother bearing your child. It's just weird.

>>6670 Like 95% of the sex on the planet is casual and not shared by people in love. Also, what's so immoral and shameful about a surrogate mother?

>>6670 Imagine being lonely, dried up, ignored, devalued, humiliated, rejected, and thinking sex is about love.

>>6678 I highly doubt that.

>>6684 Yeah, probably like 98 or 99%, if you count it as number of sexual encounters. Do you even know how often married couples have sex (with each other)?

>>6683 Just because you defiled it by paying for it doesn’t mean others have to defile it as well.

>>6685 One of us is out of touch and I don't want to rule out it's me. Do you have any numbers there?

>>6688 Hardly, just intuition, loving people have seggs sparingly after let's say 25, and younger people have no place of their own. The ones I see hooking up the most are sex fiends and cheaters, young adults with multiple partners and johns and hookers. Maybe not as high a percentage as I said but I do believe most sex is casual nowadays (and that's ok)

>>6709 Counting by partners, it's something like 75% for me and counting by instances way over 90%. Averaged over everyone I know well enough to know their sexual lives, I'd say im pretty average this way. I know a few people who are 100% relationship-based, and some who had slutty phases but most of the time falls in relationships. Also, consider all the countries where premarital sex is illegal. Then add those where it's severely frowned upon. Then add those like Japan where it's generally okay, but many people have conservative mindsets and they need 15 dates to hold hands. No way that 99% of sexual encounters on earth are casual. Maybe 50% in the most promiscuous cities that the rest of the world would call Sodom and Gomorrha.

>>6713 Well, I was talking about western style countries with similar sex views, which I expect have similar numbers, but also the average age is an important factor. As said I don't have statics and I wouldn't trust them if I had some, the percentages just were made up, but as general rule I'd still say casual sex is the most common kind, though that's an opinion

>>6716 > western style countries with similar sex views Even those have "chaste", traditional people who will wait until marriage. And for those who don't: a year of sluttiness compared to years of relationship still puts the "non-casual" (competitive?) sex ahead. > Approximately 72% of U.S. adults are in a romantic relationship, which includes married, dating, or living together individuals

>>6727 Committed of course. I don't think so, a year of sluttines, is as much sex you'll have in your last 30 years of marriage (with your wife) and most people, specially women don't do just one year. And if just 20% of the rest are slutting it up at the moment I'd say they still win, plus you didn't factor in the cheaters

>>6732 >a year of sluttines, is as much sex you'll have in your last 30 years of marriage (with your wife) You're overestimating the amount of sex people have, man.. no idea how much sex people have in the last 30 years of their marriage, I'm neither married, nor that old, but the extreme cases of 1-2 ONS per week that some incel blackpill people try to convince you of are extremely rare. Even in single/slutty phases, most people go months without sex. >Respondents in the United Kingdom averaged seven [sex] partners, while Italy averaged 5.4. Even if you assume that they only have a single relationship and only fuck a single time, i.e. 1 times in a relationship, 6 times casual, you won't get numbers above 90%. And that's for the UK, not for Afghanistan. A much more realistic number is the casual sex happens 1-3 times per partner while sex with a spouse in the order of hundreds (1 times per week would mean 100 every two years, scale that as you wish).

>>6737 Well, this is not going anywhere clearly we both have our opinions and we can't both be right. But just to clarify: I am married, not complaining, as marriage so much more than just sex, but it goes down pretty quickly after the first child, with the older persons I've known sex is maybe once every two months at 50, rare, if ever after 65, if they're the same age I said casual, not ONS, I'm talking about non committed relationships but most people in what you'd call a slutty phase just hook up with their exes (especially women, they usually need know the person pretty well), I know I did, more than I did while being in the relationship, and I'm a Bernd, just 15 years later, and even I was doing three different girls in the same week for a while The study that you quote seems pretty old or it surely is including pretty old people, but, as I explained, there's no reason to think you'd only hook up once with a casual partner, even hookers have regulars, you just need not be exclusive or like, in love. But I repeat, the +90% I made up, but really I don't think it's that far off

>>6761 >I know I did, more than I did while being in the relationship Wait, so there are women you were in love/in a relationship with, and you've slept with them both in a relationship and before/after you've had feelings for them? And you have slept with them without any feelings more than during your relationship? Just to circle back, this was about whether having sex with a prostitute is close to "the real thing". Not sure if trying again with your ex counts, as I imagine you had a much stronger bond with your ex than a random Bernd has with a random whore.

I don't know what's happening to me but recently I've been saving pictures of women fully clothed in suggestive positions and/or wearing low cut tops and it makes me whörny after over 15 years of being a coomer. Can any coom expert tell me exactly why this is happening to me? Just a few days ago I masturbated to a fully clothed woman, as vanilla as possible, and I got off to it. I don't understand anything anymore, has my coom tolerance been reset? I'm feeling way better about it because it's normal and I want to be normal. But it makes me wonder what happened to me.

>>6834 I don't think it's normal. But it reminds me of "prejac porn". Basically, a form of humiliation where people coom to fully clothed women because they "don't deserve" to see naked women. I don't think you've been reset. You have just reached the next level of degeneracy. Congratulations.

>>6835 Should I be worried?

>>6836 Why should you?

>>6838 I'm not sure, it's not a problem, if anything, it should be good. But I am feeling like I should worry for some reason.

>>6834 I don't think that's unusual at all, clothed women can be more appealing than naked ones sometimes.

>>6840 I've always thought that I was a degenerate for many years. Recently I've realized that the only thing I ever did was masturbate to internet porn. There's people that have done a variety of degenerate things in real life that don't even come close to anything I've ever done during my entire life and I am now beginning to understand that I am a very normal person with normal interests and normal desires to have normal sex. I think other Bernds are the same too. Maybe we are not that unusual after all.

>>6786 That's actually your assumption, Bernd, I actually strongly implied since my first post sex with a prostitute is very different from the real thing, even needing a pill in most caes, this line of argumentation is more about the morality of "cheapening" sex with money, and my argument was that sex can be not that special, as most people who don't are not in love

>>6844 I realized how normal I was after taking steroids which turned me into a sexual degenerate (in mind, not action). I didn't realize what happened until I lowered the dose and the sexual lunacy went way down. Hormones are a hell of a drug