/int/ - International

>>27371 It's mostly the families fighting that causes that. Romeo has to escape anyway because he accidentally killed a guy.

And the plan about faking death in Romeo and Juliet is good but fate fucks it up because of the letter. That's what real tragedies are about, destiny is your enemy and might kill you. Yes it's also a teenage romance.

>>27346 This one is good. At first glance, Star Wars is a kids space adventure, but with a careful eye there are a ton of adult themes and concepts to it. One example is that the star wars movies are designed to go backwards and forwards. Han Solo is cornered by Greedo in the first movie. In the second movie, in a very similar scene, he is cornered by Lando and Vader, shoots first, but still gets captured. Lots of mirrored scenes and mirrored characters like that.

>>27445 With you I honestly can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not

>>27453 Another mirror is Mace Windu and Darth Maul. Notice their names are both very similar types of weapons? They are the strong man for their respective orders, someone you send out to kill when order is threatened. Maul was just a very angry killer while Mace believed in ideals but had the power to kill when he deemed it necessary. Neither was the leader of their respective order and both died in very similar ways, by being dismembered with lightsabers and falling to their death.

>>27511 >Darth Maul the stupidest character ever created intriguing looks, mystery past, fantastic fighting skills ... and then appears a couple of times in one film and gets instantly killed the greatest disappointment

>>27513 >the greatest disappointment Surely Anakin Skywalker was the greatest disappointment in the the prequels.

>>27528 funnily related to this thread, I started to value more Anakin's character over the years I mean how else would you even play him and his descent into the dark side? and the duel scene with Obi-Wan is definitely in the top of my list hell, I feel goosebumps thinking about it >you were my brother >I loved you >you were supposed to be the Chosen one <I HATE YOU!

>>27528 The most disappointing and disturbing thing inthem is the knowledge that Darth Vader built C3PO

Fight club

>>26223 >Forrest Gump Seemed like some sort of soy middlebrow "good movie" to me at the time, didn't watch Today it seems like an offensively stupid and syrupy movie that promotes "American conservative values" with all the usual conformism, blind belief and jingoism. Disgusting. Maybe I'll watch it in full someday to get a better idea of what it's really like, but it seems unlikely that I'll enjoy it. Except for the fake historic scenes, these seem fun.

>>27346 How old were you when you say kid? I became a bit of a Star Wars fan at age 12 and never thought that the main struggle was anything but a rebellion to overthrow a dictatorship. They do hit you over the head with it, it's uhhhh kind of hard to miss with the main antagonists being called "Rebellion" and "Empire" and all.

>>27585 >How old were you when you say kid? I was probably about 10 years old when I first saw Star Wars and didn't understand anything about politics or governments. I didn't see the value in America's 2nd amendment to the constitution until my 20s and didn't agree with it until my 30s. I really had no idea how serious the threat of a tyrannical governments is, I simply interpreted the movie to be one dimensional good guys verses bad guys. Now we have the OSA and digital IDs and people getting arrested for mildy offensive things they said upon Twitter. I look at China and worry.

>>27584 I mean, I think you are right on your first attempt. It is a syrupy movie that's goal is to blast 50s, 60s, and 70s nostalgia. I don't agree that the plot of the movie is inherently conservative. That interpretation comes from Forest being seen as a "conservative" character, and Jenny as a "liberal" character. Forest follows the expected lifepath of school, being drafted into the military, starting a business, investing well, while Jenny follows a destructive lifepath of counterculture, drugs, sex, prostitution, and eventually death. Some will argue that that is inherently conservative, but Forest was hardly a conservative minded character. He consistently sided with the liberal groups on issues of the day, for example segregation, but overall didn't think much and only subtlety gave his opinion on things.

I'm considering re-watching Independence Day. Pretty sure I won't enjoy it as much as I did as a young teen, but maybe it's still entertaining anyway? After watching the frankly underwhelming X-Files movie, which often looked and felt like a cheap TV movie, I somehow want to compare and contrast against a proper big budget flick with aliens.

>>28808 I loved Independence Day as a kid.

>>28808 Oh holy fug, I looked up their budgets. X-Files movie 66 million USD, Independence Day 75 million USD. I honestly thought that ID4 cost at least 10x as much because it looked about that much better - I downloaded it and immediately got excited by some of the cool visuals while skipping through it. So it's true that Roland Emmerich is an effects genius - and the X-Files guys were kinda clueless tbh.

>>28875 I enjoyed Independence Day as a kid, but did it have any real stars other than maybe Jeff Goldblum in it? Those were the ones who took the majority part of budgets, not the effects. Duchovny and Anderson probably could ask at least half of those 60 Million to share between them for doing the movie. Also Emmerich seems mostly very talented about financing his films. From what I recall reading about him, his first movie right out of film school had a relatively big budget.

>>28900 >Duchovny and Anderson They have never been big stars and were reportedly kind of underpaid in the series. Duchovny is frankly not a super good actor, just serviceable and suitable for certain roles. Anderson is very good IMO, but she doesn't have a big star screen presence. She has never been very business-minded (nor extremely pretty), or she could have become quite rich with her talent and, it seems, devotion to the craft. The biggest thing that they had going for them in the X-Files was their chemistry. As an example, there was a scene where Mulder asks Scully to dance and it feels like their bodies are natually striving towards each other. I've once had a gf with similar settis, it's a force of nature and they could represent that on screen.

>>28900 Jeff Goldblum and Will Smith, though I think ID4 is what *made* Will Smith a proper star. Jeff Goldblum was a super fun character. Brent Spiner, too, but not really a star.

>>26257 At least you weren't late twenties and trying to convince someone at a hacker camp that some anime about schoolchildren is like really intelligent and powerful and sheit. Some (non-literal... I think) retard did that to me. I could only pity the guy.

>>28904 if it was shinsekai yori or somesuch he might even had had a point

>>28808 Keep your nasheeds ready

>>28905 >shinsekai yori I think it looked much less artsy, much more like the typical cheap anime style. Like when somebody runs, they just show three seconds of the character apparently running on a large ball with unicolor background, the same five frames repeating at 12 fps - frankly yuck.

>>28904 It's clearly above you.

>>27346 >Star Wars trilogy >standing up to an authoritarian dictatorship government Seriously? I think every kid knew about this, it hardly gets more obvious than this message.

>>27513 >the stupidest character ever created >the greatest disappointment No, you just missed the plot like of Darth Sidious utilising his every apprentice as an instrument to sway Anakin to the dark side. >>27528 In what way? I think he's a brilliant character and one of the reasons why Prequels are so good. It's hard to imagine a better way in which this story could've been written.

When you're a kid it's just an action comedy. When you grow up it's a fucking dystopian prophecy.

Not a movie, but when I played FFX on release I enjoyed my time in Spira all around. When I got it years later on Steam and played it again, only then I noticed how drab and plagued by death the world of Spira is underneath all the cope against constant extermination via color and desperate-cheerful mentality. Just as OP said, really showed me how my mind matured over the years and experience. And fuck yeah when I 100% FFX2 and all came full circle into a happy ending.

>>28930 I watched that as a teenager and very much remember being impressed by the Dennis Leary character being "off the grid". It made me almost paranoid about sharing information on the webs.

>>28912 I don't think so. The guy, by the way, didn't have any special capability with computers. I suspect that he just hung out with the nerds because they didn't completely shun him like normies would.

>>29002 You wouldn't think so, it goes too far over your head.

I can't wait to (pirate) watch this. I'm going to enjoy it whether I want to or not. Take the rieupill

>>29088 what's this? I only know (and occasionally watch) that Vienna Philharmonic New Year's concert

>>29088 I think you have to be female and 65+ to be allowed to enjoy André Rieu. t. mother haver

>>29126 Maybe Norway is a 65yo mother?

>>25959 > getting anything but entertainment out of movies as an adult ngmi

Just watching Ghost in the Shell again, the ScarJo one. And now with a wiser mind and 5 minutes in I come to the same conclusion that this could have been such a great movie, if it would be a nicely funded Jap-Live-Action instead.

>>29188 I never even considered the live action of that one. No way this could have been good.

>>29197 Eh, it's another forgettable blockbuster, perfectly suited for a flight or, you know, Saturday evening as Bernd :3 But man, Scarlett just looks so... stumpy when just camoptically comically.

FFS just make that into a whole movie.

>>29215 Addendum: the rest of the movie is hardly like that. But that alone is worth the watch.

>>29188 It's fine. I get that weebs are mad, but nobody stops Japan from making a live action adaptation of it. And can we please quit pretending like gooks are good at this?

>>29218 It is the fact that Asians aren't perfect at this. The more "perfect" movies became, the less authentic and captivating they got. Gimme cringe, but gimme heart.

>>29218 Counteroffer. Jap-Deathnote with William "BWC" Dafoe

Could you guys stop shitting up the thread with random-ass bargain bin movies? OTOH, maybe all good content that Bernds (all four of them) have in store has already been poasted, so whatever.

Watching Flash Gordon now. Wishing to be a young adult back when it aired.

>>29276 > "Flash, Flash, I love you, but we only have fourteen hours to save the Earth!"

>>29281 Queen is always GOAT. Also Dog gamn!